12/4/14 (no jury)- dead men do watch porn!

12/4/14

I'm having so much fun;

Some more court on the stupid computer. I got a strong feeling, good old Bryan has been doing some porn watching. He's just going to claim that the rolling fog came in and he doesn't remember.



Court in an hour late starting. Then the lawyers go into the judge's chambers. Jodi is here in her stripes.

Sometimes a picture really is worth a 1000 words.

Bryan Neumeister (the eyeball expert) is getting all set up with his equipment. Juan is up with the cross.
Juan is saying Bryan Neumeister deleted 70,000 files on Oct 22, 2014. He used an incinerator-Bryan denies
Bryan says nothing was on the drive after June 16, 2009 and you deleted these files (to Juan) Juan states- "you turned over the clones and it has this incinerator on it. You were working on the computer on Oct 22nd correct?"
Bryan- I don't know I didn't do this. Bryan says Tony and another person worked on this project.

Tony

Sidebar

Juan makes Bryan write the persons name down on a paper so the name in not read in open court.
Juan- So on Oct. 22 you are saying these Tech's were working on this? Bryan- I need evidence before I say they were. I need metadata to find this information out
Juan- But you didn't bring it with you

Juan wants to talk about the incinerator program. Juan says "you hid this" Bryan- "You're a liar and this is prosecutor misconduct"

Juan- I have someone that's going to testify to this so do you want to call them a liar?!!

Sidebar

Juan- You called me a liar and you don't know if someone else looked at your clone? Bryan- You said I erased things

Juan- You don't know whether or not an analysis has been done or not.

Bryan- I don't know

Juan asks Bryan what's so special about this guy you had to write his name on a piece of paper

Sorry..this is all that comes to my mind when they talk about clones.

Sidebar

Juan- This incinerator program only appears when the 3 of you were using the computer. Juan- I want to talk about this incinerator program

Bryan- which one

Juan- You know what this type of program does correct? Bryan- They do different things

Juan- OK if you worked on this computer & used this incinerator program why don't you tell me which one it was Bryan- I don't know

Juan- What is the gigabyte on this computer Bryan- 500

Juan- are you sure that's what it is Bryan- I need to pull it up...I need to look at my other machine

Juan- It's actually 60 and you turned over clones that contained 20.9

Bryan- Yes that's true but I want to look at the drive

Juan- You cloned it on a 500 gb Hardrive so how much is on Travis's? Bryan- 18.4 Juan- Well it actually had 55 GB of info.How many gigs on this exhibit

Bryan-18.3 

Juan- You only gave us 18.3 out of a 55 gig hard drive

Bryan- We had to eliminate a virus and we got this from Mesa PD

Juan- Do the math and tell me how many Gigs you didn't look at

Bryan didn't give an answer so Juan said 37.6 gigs not looked

Juan- It was the judges order to turn over to me the exact image Willmott- Objection...It was the lawyers request..sustained

Juan- How about second time you went to Mesa PD Bryan- IDK you are trying to spin these facts Juan- So you don't know

Bryan- I've been in 4 cities Juan- You don't remember and you did charge for it. You didn't use a write blocker with your clone true?

Bryan- true but this is just a picture of the drive

Juan- On Oct 22, 2014 at 11:32pm someone went and altered, changed messed up files didn't they?

Bryan- No matter how you spin this we have Mesa PD drive and it shows exactly the same thing we got

Juan- You deleted and modified over 8,000 files on Travis' hard drive Bryan- We removed virus'

Juan- You modified over 8,000 files Bryan- I don't know the exact number. These were virus'. You are spinning this

Juan- You testified it was at 9:27am the computer was brought out of sleep mode correct?

Bryan is clueless.

Juan- so when you testified you made a mistake Bryan- Could be

Palin keeps objecting (Sorry if I slip and call Jennifer Willmott- Palin.When the trial first started, I thought Jennifer looked so much like Sarah Palin.)

Juan- You said someone pushed the button at 10:13am by someone pushing the button. A hard shutdown Bryan- It could be 

Juan- According to you Travis was looking at porn on June 10, 2008 Bryan- Some sites were accessed

Juan- Mr. Alexander was dead wasn't he Bryan- Yes but I can explain

Juan- Can't you tell if someone is looking at Porn or not? Bryan- When it's turned on it pinged the porn

Juan- So you mentioned a virus firing up when turned on correct? Bryan- Yes and it directs to porn sites 

Juan- When this computer was turned on did you detect an incinerator? Bryan- I found 19 different programs at all different times

Bryan- Here is a list of privacy cleaners Juan- Right and you showed us this before. When was SpyBot downloaded

Juan- When did Travis download Spy Bot for the first time-tell me this 

Bryan- I see 2005 Juan- Highlight it

Juan- It says changed on 12/2007. What's the date of the access time 6/4/2008 at 2:44. But it's actually at 1:44pm not 2:44pm. So this means Travis was accessing Spy Bot on this date and time

Bryan- Yes

Juan- Was this installed at June 3, 2008? Bryan- It could be installed and re-installed

Juan- When was it installed on June 3, 2008?

Recess

Juan- was SpyBot run in May of 2008? Bryan- He needs to do more things to find this information out

Juan- May 27th, 2008 after 11pm it was run? Bryan- I can't give exact info with running a report

Juan- Go to May 27th, 2008 Bryan- Well there is a change

Juan-Go to that one Bryan- why would you want me to go to that one

Juan- Just do it

Juan- So you can't tell me anything Bryan- I needed to know this ahead of time

Juan- In a motion filed on Nov. 10th, 2014 the websites that are mentioned all start on May 28, 2008 correct?

Bryan says "sorry it's taking me so long there's just so much porn on here" (ha. Notice how he got that in?)

Bryan, you're acting like a douche

Juan- Spybot was installed in 2007 wasn't it? Bryan- I need to look

Juan- You said it was a hard shut down on computer and on 6/19/2009 you are saying someone erased files

Bryan- When computer powered up without write blocker things got changed

Juan- So these are things that are automatically done by computer Bryan- No it was downloaded on the 10th, windows updates and Apple update

Juan- There wasn't a program called incinerator on there at that time was there? Bryan- hang on a second. I don't know the name of program and I want to see what's incinerated

Juan- Incinerator 2.3 is not on there is it? Bryan- No. You are putting stuff in my mouth

The Incinerator

Juan- That wasn't my question. You are saying someone pushed buttons on keyboard and files were deleted

Bryan- Correct

Juan is done 

Willmott is up

W-You know when someone actually touches a keyboard correct? Bryan- Yes and someone installed updates 

Some objections by Juan

Willmott- Is Quicktime related to Apple Bryan- Yes and it has to be manually installed due to licensing

W- So when the computer was turned on June 19, 2009 that's when all these deletions and modification happened right? Bryan- Yes

W- Pros accused you of incinerating things did you do that Bryan- No. Aug 26th, 2014 we found 70,000 files had been zeroed out

Willmott- So clearly you didn't do that! Bryan- No. Every bit of porn was on the Mesa PD clone. Zlob virus was installed and uninstalled many times. It's a player from porn sites and it asks you to download it and it was.

Bryan says he's never seen this many privacy scrubbers on a computer

(There's no way these computer experts are "experts" All it took was a few minutes looking on the internet about the Zlob virus to realize that in it's hayday- it wrecked havoc on computers. It installed video codes and other re-directed links. Porn was a huge redirected link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlob_trojan)

Juan says Willmott wants to discuss the porn and he is here to discuss the misconduct allegations. Judge allows the porn talk.

W asks what Bryan has on his computer for virus protection and Juan objects saying "fine then I want a copy of his hard drive to verify".

(From a twitter account: Worth noting a few minutes ago Martinez said he would "challenge Neumeister when he's on the witness stand. No way this ends 12/18.)

Willmott- Having this amount of privacy scrubber and anti-virus does what when someone has been looking at Porn from 2006-2008

Bryan- You are trying to get rid of data. I've seen no more than 6 and this computer had 22

They start reading Melendez's transcript when he testified. (He's the cop)

Bryan- You have to go through the registry or you are stunningly incompetent

Melendez testified he looked through registry and didn't see virus'.

Bryan states it's impossible

Willmott- Are you retained for the Prosecution in cases? Bryan- Yes

Juan wants a copy of the exact image, not clones.

Willmott says they have it. It's the original

Juan- "he went twice and made images. I want the exact copy of these images from those two occasions" Bryan- You have the original

Break

Sidebar.

Juan- You went to Mesa PD twice to view the drive. On those two occasions you brought hardware..write blocker and then you got a clone

Bryan- Yes. Then he tells Juan that Juan knows nothing about computers.

Juan says "you don't know what I know about computers"

The judge tells Bryan to answer the question.

Juan wants Bryan to explain the process of making a clone and what equipment he used

Bryan wants to be a computer snob. He wants to talk with Willmott.

Break

Bryan doesn't want to hand over the information. He says that Juan already has it.

Willmott- Did you look at a PC pocket phone, would there have to be an SIM card to make a phone call? Bryan- You need the SIM card

Finished

Juan is calling Jodi's ex-lawyer Greg Parzych.

Ex attorney

Greg says property was out and they went through it at Mesa PD.

Juan- In terms of computers did you look at any Greg- 2 or 3 of them were there. 2 were powered on and the third had a problem and wasn't on

Juan- With a powered up computer what did you do? Greg- We looked at photos

Juan- Maria needed the size of the hard drive- do you remember that Greg- It was so long ago but maybe so

Juan- How long did you look at computer Greg- I really don't know. We all looked at this stuff together

Juan- Who was pushing buttons Greg- I don't remember. It wasn't a big deal back then

Juan- How did you view the pictures who was clicking Greg- I can't remember

Juan- 2nd computer same thing? Greg- I don't remember what we viewed

Willmott- You typically always view evidence, right? Greg- Yes

Willmott- Flores never put a write blocker on the computer correct? Greg- Not that I knew of

Juan- Would you tolerated any police officer telling you how to view the property

Greg- I would tell them I want to view it how I want or get a court order

Juan calls Detective Flores

Flores- The defense wanted to view all the electronic evidence at Mesa PD so I had it pulled for them

1:56pm computer was checked out. 2pm it was viewed. 4:51pm it was returned

Defense team asked Flores to open each item and he got scissors and did that upon request

Flores- The Defense asked to open the computer. I thought they had a computer expert with them. I can't remember who turned on computer. The defense team or investigator was pushing buttons but I don't get involved with that. I'm there to make sure they don't leave with the items not give legal advice and I'm not a computer expert. No one asked me for my permission to turn the computer on.

Juan- Were the telephones seized in the conditions they are in now

Flores- Yes we didn't remove SIMS cards

Recess. 

Defense says they are calling 14 witnesses but only have issues with 3. Juan says he only has 2 more hours left on his part.

Wednesday Dec 10- the porn hearing will continue.